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Subway Etiquette

The subway in NYC forms an integral part of our lives and this calls for a subway etiquette for NYC. Unfortunately not all riders are cognizant of their fellow travelers and indulge in all sorts of acts which hamper and inconvenience other riders. The New York Times recognizes this and now invites your tales of subway woes as it tries to set up a subway etiquette code for NYC subway riders.

http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/10/22/complaint-box-subway-door-standers/

What annoys you the most when you ride the subway? how do you deal with it?
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uptowngirl 2yrs+
Here's account on how one New Yorker plans and plots to get herself seated on the subway
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/24/nyregion/24nystory.html

Do you also have a pattern that you follow? I must confess I do, I try and get the 'aisle' seats so as to speak or the seats which are located closest to the doors so that its relatively easy for me to get out especially if I am on one of my TJ's runs.
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NeverSleeps 2yrs+
I think I try to adhere to all the normal things - I let people off the train before I get on, I stick to the right side of the escalator if I don't feel like walking up. I do sometimes get a little anxious if my stop is coming up and there are a million people blocking the door. But I always hang on until the last moment to start making my way through the masses. I am sort of clumsy and don't really like pushing through crowds of people on a moving train.
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I hate the smell of people eating in closed spaces, such as the underground or the Tube. I'm glad that one made the list of pet peeves!
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hhusted 2yrs+
The last time I road a subway, which was months ago, I just stood up and held onto the rail. When my stop came, I got out. If I am going a long way, I look for the first available seat and grab it, unless a woman, or a handicap person is nearby, then I'll give them first preference.
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NeverSleeps 2yrs+
@ajadedidealist I hate when I am at the library and people whip out their packed lunches and eat right in front of me, so I can completely relate. Eating is a highly sensual experience, and people shouldn't force you to experience it with them in an enclosed space against your will.
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uptowngirl 2yrs+
@NeverSleeps didn't know you were allowed to bring food into the library.. I presume these are the NYPL that you are referring to
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NeverSleeps 2yrs+
@uptowngirl Not sure about the rules, but they sure aren't enforced at the BPL in Grand Army Plaza if it's the case that you can't eat. There is a cafe downstairs, so maybe you are allowed to eat at the laptop work tables? But everyone seems to do it, no matter how smelly their lunch happens to be. It's awful when you're trying to write a brilliant blog entry and the person across from you whips out a tuna sandwich.
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uptowngirl 2yrs+
@NeverSleeps I empathize though I am quite surprised that they bring food into the library havent seen it at any of the NYPLs that I have frequented but then people brazenly tuck into smelly meals on the subway ispite of the fact that specific signs that say no food/drinks abound.
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uptowngirl 2yrs+
@Everyone yet another pet peeve of mine is that there are some folk -mostly men on the no.6 train who sit with their legs spread wide apart as if to mark territory i.e. seating space.Not only does it look gross its awfully selfish too as the no.6 train is a perennially busy line and seating opportunities are usually scarce on the line.
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NeverSleeps 2yrs+
@uptowngirl @JenMac I really don't like smelling people's paper bag lunches in public places where you don't expect people to be stuffing their faces. It is so rude to start munching away when people have no choice but to be sitting close to you!
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Uraniumfish 2yrs+
@uptowngirl I've had the experience of sitting next to such a guy on a packed subway car and the entire time the guy - held his legs wide apart - like the jerk he was. Hello? We were packed in like sardines because of him.
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hhusted 2yrs+
@Uraniumfish: I would say something at that point. The guy, who had his legs spread out so wide, was acting rudely and needed to be told that. If I have to sit down and I see someone do that, I'll tell him to move so I can sit. I find they do move, even if they do give you an angry look.
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uptowngirl 2yrs+
@hhusted some of those men are so huge and fierce to look at and though I am not a small girl by any chance I wouldn't want to pick a fight with any of them. Like I said they seem to be marking territory and probably are in no mood to relinquish the space.
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Uraniumfish 2yrs+
@uptowngirl I agree, I may be fearless in other ways, but I do know my size in comparison to an animal like that an would be reluctant to pick a fight...
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uptowngirl 2yrs+
@hhusted that's incredible. I know people take snaps of pervs and what not and inform the MTA about them but I didnt know you could do that with these seat hoggers.
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hhusted 2yrs+
@Uptowngirl: I didn't either until I saw the picture. I guess when enough people complain, they do something. There could also have been something hidden behind this situation to, that caused the MTA to ban him from using the trains.
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I hope he didn't actually have something wrong with his legs - because that would just be horrid!
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Uraniumfish 2yrs+
What a funny strange story. New Yorkers can be so weird.
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uptowngirl 2yrs+
@Uraniumfish you can say that again!
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NeverSleeps 2yrs+
Banned from MTA? You can get a ticket for putting your feet on the seat, but it doesn't seem like a legal reason to ban someone. It's not a private business, you can't just pick and chose who to let on the train... That's a strange story.

@Uraniumfish My guess is the guy with his legs spread out was just looking for a fight. You see such displays of machismo on occasion, and I'm with you - I wouldn't bother saying anything to the guy, either.
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uptowngirl 2yrs+
@NeverSleeps on the 6 , I think the men who sit like that don't seem to be looking for a fight rather they seem to like to sprawl and grab as much space as they can. Its really annoying.
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hhusted 2yrs+
@NeverSleeps and Uptowngirl: i have no idea why the MTA banned the guy I was talking about, but it did happen. I did not ask questions. I just got on the train and went on my way. I think men that take their legs and spread it out like this guy did, are doing it for selfish reasons. They want the attention. They hope you say something. They probably have a chip on their shoulders.
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BroadwayBK 2yrs+
@uptowngirl @NeverSleeps Yes, you do run into those men pretty often, don't you? But it seems like most people give each other the space they need.
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NeverSleeps 2yrs+
The more time I spend in the city, the more I realize how much I love Brooklyn. It's such a relief to get close to home and have virtually no one to share the train with - at least in comparison to the crowds in Midtown.
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uptowngirl 2yrs+
@Everyone I for one would like the Second Avenue subway line to be commissioned as soon as possible, it would at least take some pressure off the 4,5,6 lines which are perennially packed and thus insufferable. God alone knows when that will happen now.
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JenMac 2yrs+
@neversleeps: I think one of my favorite things about moving into the city from Brooklyn is that I'm rarely on those god awful trains now. That was the friggin pits!
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NeverSleeps 2yrs+
@JenMac I rarely take the train, either. At night I always end up in a cab and by day I usually work in the neighborhood.... I had some friends in town for the holiday and it seemed like we were on the train all day. I feel sorry for commuters!
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